October 8, 2012

The Uncle Joe Show

I am undecided on how the Biden-Ryan debate will unfold. I do not hew to the line that Biden is a doddering old fool who will be destroyed by Darth Ryan. For one thing, Biden, despite, or in fact because of, his gaffe-prone nature, nonetheless comes off as a likable fellow. It's hard to hate on Old Joe. In between his Tourette's outbursts he is amiable and engaging. And always upbeat. Perhaps misguided politically, but a good guy. He might show up for Christmas dinner with his pants on backwards, but he'll have presents for the kids.

Ryan is to me the far superior intellect. But he is wonkish by nature. A Powerpoint numbers guy. Tossing off a glib one-liner and flashing a great smile is not in his nature. And he will come into this debate fully cognizant of those shortcomings, and will strive mightily to overcome them, but he might still come off as Ming the Merciless. Beating up on poor Uncle Joe. That don't play in Peoria. Biden has a natural affinity edge here. Hell, I'll go drink a beer with Joe Biden anytime. He's a stand-up American.

Here's where I have trouble handicapping this thing: The Obama campaign was bitterly stung last week, and the Benadryl hasn't much reduced the swelling. They want a quick turnaround, and I have the sickening feeling they are pressuring Biden to deliver it. To make up for Obama's failure. I believe they will force Joe to come out swinging, to go for the jugular with every turn. Biden isn't bad at that occasionally, but I think there is going to be so much pressure on him to hit a homer with every response that he will be far outside his comfort zone. We are liable to see a campaign-orchestrated effort to force Biden so far off his game he goes full-blown retard. And it won't be his fault.

Biden, like everyone else, has strengths and weaknesses. But my gut tells me he is going to be forced into single combat as an assault weapon, with the sole intention of atoning for Obama, rather than playing to his strengths. If so, it will be a double-down disaster.

If they let Joe play his game, I think this will be a pretty close debate. But I fear they have already been feeding him gunpowder in his oatmeal, and Ecstasy in his nightcap. Poor Joe.

Posted by Velociman at October 8, 2012 8:45 PM | TrackBack
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Likable? Ick. He's a smarmy sex-addict narcissist and I could never imagine myself liking him on any personal interaction level. Creeps me out. Funny uncle. No. Not. Nope.

Posted by: Joan of Argghh! at October 8, 2012 9:15 PM

"smarmy sex-addict narcissist"

Dammit. I thought I had that gig sewn up tight.

Seriously, I don't find Slow Joe likable either, if for no other reason than that I find it difficult to tolerate a fool.

Posted by: Randy Rager at October 8, 2012 10:37 PM

For what it's worth, common wisdom in Washington DC is that there are very few who dislike Biden. He's very human, with all the failings that attend that state, and seems OK with it.

He's creepy, in the sense that he's pushing the Obama party line, but aside from that, doesn't seem bright enough to be evil, while also seeming cheery enough to be nice.

I, too, would have a beer with him, and wouldn't find myself surprised to like him personally.

I like my favorite uncle too - I'd take a bullet for him, but I'd never vote for him if he were to run for office.

Joe seems sort of like that, minus the whole bullet-taking part.

Posted by: Patton at October 9, 2012 1:16 AM

Well, I guess Biden seemed likeable when he advised Obama against enforcing the Sandra Fluke birth control coverage mandate on religiously-affiliated groups.

However, less than a couple months ago, the non-Southerner Biden told a crowd, using an Ebonics dialect, that "They're gonna put y'all back in chains." "They're" being a reference to Romney and the bankers.

Even though I'm starting to loathe bankers as much as I despise politicians, Biden came across like another Jesse Jackson/Sharpton wannabe at that moment, so fuck him and the dead horse he rode on.

Posted by: 08nagaer at October 9, 2012 5:55 AM

I have held a slow burn toward Uncle Joe since the Clarence Thomas hearings. The smarmy smile he has always reminds me of his shameful perfomance at the "high-tech lynching".

Posted by: firecapt at October 9, 2012 5:10 PM

Sorry dude - but just because Ryan says he is a numbers guy - doesn't mean his is. And it only goes to show how desperate the GOP is for smarts - that he in any way quaifies.

Posted by: mintosh at October 10, 2012 11:34 AM

Hey y'all. Am I the only woman who feels this sort of post is just plain ugly? It's hair-plug ugly.

Posted by: Ann Outhouse at October 10, 2012 9:32 PM

Unlike the Left (example: Paul Krugman, who has never been right about anything and has the Nobel to prove it), the Right doesn't just hand someone accolades because they "say they are a numbers guy". Ryan has proven his chops over and over again. Pissing and moaning because you don't like what his numbers say just makes you look like an idiot.

Rational humans are expecting Ryan to hand Biden a giant plate of his own ass with trimmings. They are also expecting Slow Joe to be just dumb enough to think he won the thing, just like his dumbass boss did for 24 hours after Romney did that very thing to him.

24 hours.

Christ on a pogo stick.

Posted by: Randy Rager at October 10, 2012 11:41 PM

I too noticed Joe Biden during the Robert Bork hearings. In my opinion the man is suffering from a brain disorder. He's probably had a stroke or maybe has a brain tumor.

Tonight if Ryan finds Biden's fuse, there's good chance he will go off like a Roman candle.
Let's hope.

Posted by: Rocky at October 11, 2012 11:59 AM

Oh Randy - there you go again. Thinking that saying it one more time might suddenly make it true. Meanwhile, in the real world, the economic plan being defended by Ryan is a complete fantasy. No matter how good you are at math, you cannot cut the deficit while leaving entitlements alone and increasing the defense budget - while also cutting taxes.

To say nothing of his nonsense with numbers regarding his marathon.

Posted by: Mintosh at October 12, 2012 12:05 AM

Marathon? WTF? Are you fucking brain damaged?

Posted by: Randy Rager at October 12, 2012 10:58 AM

Oh my if forgot the rules for a minute there. Give a conservative something substantial to consider - followed by a throwaway joke(about how unfortunate it is that a self-proclaimed numbers and fitness buff would exagerate his best marathon run)- and they will always let the less substantial issue distract them so they don't have to do any real thinking. Mea culpa. I'll try to remember in future to only dangle one issue in front of you at a time.

Posted by: mintosh at October 12, 2012 11:56 AM

Meanwhile, discussing subjects adults actually care about, even the Commie News Network had Ryan over Biden 48-44.

Had they been polling real Americans, I am sure it would have been closer to 80-20.

Posted by: Randy Rager at October 12, 2012 10:07 PM

Um - so you think the following is something real americans don't care about -- "Meanwhile, in the real world, the economic plan being defended by Ryan is a complete fantasy. No matter how good you are at math, you cannot cut the deficit while leaving entitlements alone and increasing the defense budget - while also cutting taxes."


Posted by: mintosh at October 13, 2012 10:55 AM

Are you still blabbing? We were done before I even set foot in the arena, don't you know when you're outmatched?

Posted by: Randy Rager at October 18, 2012 7:04 PM

Even though I'm starting to loathe bankers as much as I despise politicians, Biden came across like another Jesse Jackson/Sharpton wannabe at that moment, so fuck him and the dead horse he rode on. Well, I guess Biden seemed likeable when he advised Obama against enforcing the Sandra Fluke birth control coverage mandate on religiously-affiliated groups. However, less than a couple months ago, the non-Southerner Biden told a crowd, using an Ebonics dialect, that "They're gonna put y'all back in chains." "They're" being a reference to Romney and the bankers.

Posted by: Bishnugra at November 3, 2012 4:55 AM

Marathon? WTF? Are you fucking brain damaged?

Posted by: BrianJha at November 12, 2012 12:59 PM

Hey y'all. Am I the only woman who feels this sort of post is just plain ugly? It's hair-plug ugly.

Posted by: AngieBrown at January 20, 2013 10:27 AM

Sorry dude - but just because Ryan says he is a numbers guy - doesn't mean his is. And it only goes to show how desperate the GOP is for smarts - that he in any way quaifies.

Posted by: AshleyJohnson at January 22, 2013 4:38 AM

The windows were just washed within the last couple of weeks. Coincidence - or did he know that? Not sure of the interval but betting it's months. Lot's of HOA's budget window cleaning as biannual. Marathon? WTF? Are you fucking brain damaged? "This is great marketing for either the cleanliness of the Millenium's windows or the power of those suction cups."

Posted by: DankaGleaner at February 7, 2013 8:34 AM
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