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Buick, Mercury, Olds... something big. A grandpa car.

I'd love to buy her a 1966 Impala, powder blue convertible, but we get back to the reliability issue, don't we?

What would SHE like? ;)

With all due respect to Pam, what a 16 year old would like should be at the bottom of the list of criteria.

I vote for a mid/late 90's model of a Mercury Grand Marquis. I drove one a few years ago, and it was smooooooth. And heavy. And solid. And safe. Sex quotient: probably in the negative range. But safety, dependability, comfort, etc, all outweigh any "coolness" factors. Particulary if YOU are the one shelling out the $$$.

For dependability you can't beat a Honda. I bought my Civic new in '91, and it's still running like a top at 181,000 miles. As long as you take care of them, they'll never let you down. I would recommend a four-door Civic or Accord. A four-door has less sex-appeal, doncha know. :)

And, please, don't anybody give me any crap about buying American. My Civic was built in Marysville, Ohio, thank-you-very-much! And there's no such thing as a totally American-made car anymore anyway.

Won't this make it even harder to keep the lotharios at bay?

Lest I forget, in addition to big and safe, if should be big enough to have a roomy back seat. That's important at her age, don't you think?

From personal experience::::

Before you buy any car--------- CALL THE INSURANCE COMPANY re: make, model, year and engine size to get the yearly cost of her driving that car.The bigger, newer , and the larger the the engine the car has means :
CACHINNNNNNG or as we say here in Shickshinny
"mucho dinero" for her insurance! These items are directly related to her car insurance costs for the year.

If you have 3 cars and she is the third driver, she won't be "an occasional" driver.. she will be the full time driver of that third car on your policy.

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2000 dollars American money, my friend.

$2000.00 for insurance for a 16 year old????
Velociman, you may have to go to Plan B and marry her off to a rich A-rab.

Big V -

Two practical options:

(1) A VW Jetta, model year 2000+. Older than that, and its rolling the dice on reliability. Plus, they're chick cars, pretty safe, and are pretty affordable.

(2) Toyota 4Runner, Nissan Xterra, et al. - model years 1999+. Good cars. Big, safe. Reliable. And they do have the coolness factor. I prefer a, say, 1999 4Runner. Good value for the money.

Of course, my first car was a 1976 Chevy Nova with a 350 in it. .

A Ford F-150, brother. No back seat and hey, you know you have a need for it too. Just Damn!

Hey, when I was 16 did I get to choose what my dad gave me?? Noooo, I don't think so! I got a huge Plymouth with WINGS! I was SO embarrased. All the guys wrote stuff on the wings! Ugh.
So, I was just thinking of HER. Hmph...

That said, Subarus are amazingly reliable and SAFE vehicles.

Who says a 16-year-old needs a car in the first place? Is she going to pay for it and pay the insurance? Teenagers kill and get killed in automobiles at a much higher rate than the rest of the population. Instill in her the virtue of bicycling or walking. Catch a bus, or a ride from a parent, I say.

Gotta agree with Rankin' Rob here. I did not/am not buying cars for any of my kids. My oldest still doesn't have one, but he's in the Navy and doesn't need one. My next saved her money and bought her own, and she appreciated it more for all that (we paid half the insurance as long as her grades held up). One of her friends totalled a new car, and expected mommy and daddy to immediately get her another one. Your milage may vary. ;)

Wow. I got what my dad bought and chose for me when I was 16, and it cost him less than $1200 used. I complained about it back then, but now I realize I was fortunate to have anything at all.

All great feedback. I'm particularly intrigued by the Mercury Grand Marcheesie option. The best buy in America. Huge rear-wheel drive land yacht at almost luxury level for a great price. Now what will she drive? I believe Jettas are great, but the 4 banger I got in '98 didn't have enough oomph. They've tweaked the horsepower since then, though.
Why does my daughter need a car? To drive her and her littel sibling to all manner of extracurricular activity, that's why. I can't blog if I'm running up and down the damned road. She can spring for the insurance.
Rob, it's an unsafe world out there. You can't put your kids in a plastic bubble (unless they're Travolta). Life is risk. I don't like it, but it is what it is. That's why I put reliability above safety. With airbags and seat restraints I'm more worried about her breaking down on a lonesome road than getting in a fender bender.

Get her a Honda Element. Affordable, useful, reliable. They go for 20 grand loaded, brand new, so you can pick up a used one without too many miles for a reasonable sum.
The coolness factor? Cool is whatever she says is cool. All through college I pretended that a Plymouth Champ was the baddest ride on the road.

OK. In that case, a Buick LeSabre (used)with OnStar and a .357 under the seat for the rural breakdowns...

Kim: Saturn. We just went through this for my 17-year old. We found a 2000 Saturn SL at a local Saturn dealer for under $6K. We did a lot of shooping aroun, including on eBay, where I bought my pickup last April. The insurance runs us about $1400 per year. State Farm is giving us a discount because she is on honor roll. The Saturn is pretty plain, no fancy features, but it's clean, low miles (33K), great on gas, and their reliability is well-known. Plus the dealership treated us so well, we may go there for a new one in a couple of years.

Well, I vote for the BMW...I so miss mine. But hey, I couldn't afford it anymore myself.

I haven't seen it mentioned, but I'm driving in an Audi A4 Quattro. I'll never admit it publicly (nobody reads this stuff, right?), but it's really a great car. All-wheel drive for safety, has decent but not overbearing amount of power, and it's a sedan, which should get some brownie points with insurance agents.

I've always heard good things about Saturns.

My other two cents:

As nurse who does a lot of trauma:::::

1. SAFETY is first. Check the ratings.
2. Insurance second.
3. Set limits.
4. Most teen accidents are due to lack of driving experience.
5. Get ready for grey hair. Lots of it. It's is such a mixed blessing when they begin the travel the highways of life in a car all alone without you there.

I learned to drive on an old Honda, and I have never regretted it. Hondas are great on safety and reliability in my book. Good for TCO as far as repairs go, which a young driver will certainly appreciate.
Words you don't want to hear: "I have to pay WHAT to get my car fixed??"

I'm with Jack. Honda Element is one of the coolest cars on the market right now. NO CARPETS!!!

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